@Boxmonkey it’s amazing to me that the overall mood you’ve seen about Yasuke is based on how he is as a character and not him being a Black guy in Feudal Japan. I’ve seen it both ways. But damn if it hasn’t been mostly about his race.
Look, I’ll never understand why people choose to pretend it’s one thing and not the other. You don’t have to be “woke” (I’m not) to see or say what it’s really about. Don’t pretend like it really is what you just said it is because you know 🤬 well it’s not!
@wildcat_kickz 738 hours and 5 platinums for me lol. Did it twice on an old PSN name. Because Sony didn’t allow name changes back then, I created a new name then platinumed it twice more. Then when the PS5 upgrade came I did it a fifth time. Thinking of doing a 6th on another account 😃
@HonestHick I know that. But governments do dumb 💩 like that all the time. Doesn’t mean the people want it. And you know how government officials love to posture for their constituents.
@HonestHick ”USA video games are still the most played world wide games”
Exactly!
And it’s rare that Japan does to a game what gamers tried to do to Shadows. Seems they just skip a game they’re not interested in more so than make it their life’s work to destroy it.
It ebbs and flows. A decade ago, it was the reverse. You people always try to jock Japan and put down everyone else. This is why most of the Sahdows outrage came from westerners on behalf of the Japanese, while most of the Japanese media seems to be impressed with the game. Hell, even something like this is being turned into a culture war. What was the reason a decade ago when Japan struggled and the west was won?
Also, to those who say the west alienates most of their audience before the game even releases. That’s on gamers, not game makers. You all put too much of your identity into video games. Funnily enough, those same people laugh at others for connecting stuff so closely to their own identity.
@Ken_Kaniff You're so right! And I have a bunch of friends who will certainly take this happening to heart. A good amount of my friend group favors XBOX to PS.
@DonJorginho I heard they changed the desert from Black to Crimson because they didn't want to be accused of going woke LMAO! ** I'll see myself out... **
@Chupa_loyzer maybe they have the money now and aren't sure they'll have it when the game releases? Maybe they have time to do it now so they just go ahead and do it since they're gonna do it later anyway? I mean, there could be any number of reasons.
It's no surprise when you realize the number of times you'd read/hear "Man, if (insert XBOX exclusive here) were on PS5 I'd scoop it up in a heartbeat." MS finally listened.
@Ichiban it’s because if there’s any good news about this game, those who like it aren’t allowed to enjoy it. Every game has people who don’t like it. But this one is next level!
@heavyartillery56 bro! This really shouldn’t anger you to this extent. Good lord! Like, as soon as you see anything that remotely resembles good news about this game it triggers you. Self reflect, my man!
I’ve always wanted to love Souls games but they’re too distressing for me. I play games to take in the story and destress. If the hard mode isn’t required for the platinum trophy I don’t play it. With Souls games, it’s always on hard mode lol. Bloodborne was super interesting to me but I lost interest quickly.
@Zuljaras I see. It’s crazy that he posts the full transcript but it looks like no one read past the headline and his subheading. If you read the full comment it’s obvious he’s not saying “Well, people need to get comfortable with not owning their games because that’s what’s gonna happen…” Because that’s how everyone who’s up in rms about that “quote” seems to take it.
He saying for the subscription model to work, gamers have to get comfortable with not owning their games. But, there’s a choice between subbing, buying digital, or buying physical. He’s not being dismissive like many proclaim.
Dark Cloud 3 was supposed to release in 2010. I had high hopes. But I’ve moved on to other games. Bloodborne fans should try it. There’re so many other great games out there.
@Zuljaras that’s paraphrasing, not quoting. But it seems no matter his answer you’ve already had your mind made up. Its either Ubisoft is outright telling people they need to be comfortable with not owning their games. Or they mean exactly that, but didn’t say so directly.
It kinda proves how the angry YouTubers control the narrative. Like, I watched a YouTuber who’s okaying Shadows and he’s just playing the game. Not saying it’s amazing or the best game ever. Just playing. His entire comments section is people negatively commenting about Yasuke and hatred for Ubisoft. The you go to a YouTuber who’d post something like that misquote and those same people in the comments section are eating up the BS. It’s insane behavior!
@Zuljaras I’ve posted the transcript of that interview. Why do you all keep putting quotes around “Get comfortable not owning your games” when it wasn’t said at all! That’s not how quotes work!
@KawakiisaFraud I went ahead and pulled the transcript for you:
” One of the things we saw is that gamers are used to, a little bit like DVD, having and owning their games. That's the consumer shift that needs to happen. They got comfortable not owning their CD collection or DVD collection. That's a transformation that's been a bit slower to happen [in games]. As gamers grow comfortable in that aspect… you don't lose your progress. If you resume your game at another time, your progress file is still there. That's not been deleted. You don't lose what you've built in the game or your engagement with the game. So it's about feeling comfortable with not owning your game.“
“The point is not to force users to go down one route or another," he explains. "We offer purchase, we offer subscription, and it's the gamer's preference that is important here. We are seeing some people who buy choosing to subscribe now, but it all works."
And I think that’s the point — I am definitely on the side of owning the disc (talking about consoles of course because today even physical sales are not necessarily possible to run without a launcher, be it Steam, Ubisoft or any other platform where you redeem the code). Only exception I know that has written the philosophy of “owning your games” all over is GOG.
Your “quote” isn’t even said by him at all! And he even said “I am definitely on the side of owning the disc…” So again, please read past the headline and don’t follow YouTubers who obviously have an agenda.
@KawakiisaFraud that line you “quoted” is taken way out of context. Do yourself a favor and actually listen to the interview or read the transcripts. Stop listening to YouTubers who have an agenda. If you listen to the interview yourself you’ll find that line is dissected and taken out of a much broader dialogue.
@DennisReynolds what @boxmonkey is saying about the game reads like something being spread across the internet. The way he attacks the game, there’s no way he’s played that much of it to know all this. Just read some of that somewhere and decided to regurgitate it.
@rusty82 I believe @boxmonkey selectively didn’t read the “In the UK” part. It’s one of those things where you omit certain info to confirm your own bias.
@species hey. I’ll tell you why San Andreas didn’t fall into that category. It’s because it’s a game about the hood. And a Black guy has to be the lead in that game. See, when a Black guy gets out of place, that’s where the ruckus starts. Seriously! There’re people who complained about Captain America going woke because they made a Black guy be Captain America. Not knowing this is canonical. First thing they saw was Black.
As for the culture wars being new. That’s true. Like, Alien: Romulus got backlash because the lead is a female and her Android brother is Black. People complained about Alien being “woke” because it has a female lead! Alien! The film that’s had a female lead since the beginning.
I swear, in today’s climate, Ripley and Sarah Connor would never be revered as they are if they’d have been brought to the screen within the past 10 years. Neither of them are the desired female lead archetype.
@DennisReynolds I keep saying it. Yasuke (Or any other Black character) is usually fine as a background character. But move them to the main character and there’s a problem.
I had an exchange with someone a little while ago regarding Green Lantern John Stewart (The Black Green Lantern). Everyone was saying how awesome he is and then some guy chimes in and says: “See. We don’t mind Black characters at all! They just need to be great characters and integral to the story!” My question is why? Why can’t Black characters just exist like everyone else? Why do they have to be special or “magical” (IYKYK) to be accepted? Why can’t they just be a part of the show without having to be some sort of plot device to advance the white main?
This is why Yasuke in Nioh was never an issue. Yasuke in Samurai Warriors was never an issue. He was in his place; the background. Assassin’s Creed Yasuke got frisky and dared to be in the spotlight. And that ruined the historical accuracy of this video game.
@naruball thanks! Hollywood and the gaming industry have bloated budgets and make it hard for anything to be financially successful.
For example, the new Captain America has grossed 400 million worldwide but they’re saying it’s a flop. Why? Because the budget was so big that it’s barely turning a profit. Rewind to 2011 when the original Captain America grossed 370 million worldwide and it’s considered a resounding success.
The budgets are too big when you include production costs and advertising. It’s one of the reasons so many have moved to digital. They’re trying to cut costs somewhere.
Metacritic user reviews are up now. 5.7/10 so far. My favorite review is the 0/10 that says: ”nop def edef efef da dzqzd zqd zdze dzcefefgref zedzdaa ftttgtg zdfvftrgr dzd”
@Jey887 it’s absolutely the budgets for these games that make them hard to turn a profit. So many factors go into a game flopping today than they did 10 years ago (much of it is BS) so the devs need to take that into consideration. Remember when selling 1,000,000 would get the game a “Greatest Hits” label? Now, sell 5 million and you likely won’t get a sequel.
@jedinite whoever said it’s #1? The #1 game has nearly 2 million concurrent players. Assassins Creed wasn’t beating that even without those who intend for it to fail.
@nomither6 an “overwhelming majority”?! Where did you pull this “fact” from? I’m a God Of War super fan and I love all the games. But I prefer older gameplay. Many feel the opposite. But there’s no evidence that an overwhelming majority feel heavily about the games one way or another.
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Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Gets Positive Reviews In Japan as Bayonetta Director Speaks Out
@Boxmonkey it’s amazing to me that the overall mood you’ve seen about Yasuke is based on how he is as a character and not him being a Black guy in Feudal Japan. I’ve seen it both ways. But damn if it hasn’t been mostly about his race.
Look, I’ll never understand why people choose to pretend it’s one thing and not the other. You don’t have to be “woke” (I’m not) to see or say what it’s really about. Don’t pretend like it really is what you just said it is because you know 🤬 well it’s not!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Gets Positive Reviews In Japan as Bayonetta Director Speaks Out
It was never Japan that was mad over Yasuke. It was certain folks outraged on Japan’s behalf.
Re: The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Commits to 'Cutting-Edge Single-Player' Games Amidst Live Service Madness
@wildcat_kickz 738 hours and 5 platinums for me lol. Did it twice on an old PSN name. Because Sony didn’t allow name changes back then, I created a new name then platinumed it twice more. Then when the PS5 upgrade came I did it a fifth time. Thinking of doing a 6th on another account 😃
Re: The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Commits to 'Cutting-Edge Single-Player' Games Amidst Live Service Madness
@wildcat_kickz The Witcher 3 boasted my love for open work sword swingers. Game is magical in every way!
Re: The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Commits to 'Cutting-Edge Single-Player' Games Amidst Live Service Madness
CDPR and GOG FTW!
Re: Japan's Game Industry on Impressive Rise as Western AAA Development Struggles
@AverageGamer exactly what I said before! It ebbs and flows. But of course some will take this as western devs failing. That’s not it at all!
Re: Japan's Game Industry on Impressive Rise as Western AAA Development Struggles
@HonestHick I know that. But governments do dumb 💩 like that all the time. Doesn’t mean the people want it. And you know how government officials love to posture for their constituents.
Re: Japan's Game Industry on Impressive Rise as Western AAA Development Struggles
@RoomWithaMoose GREAT POST!!! A lot of western gamers need to internally reflect.
Re: Japan's Game Industry on Impressive Rise as Western AAA Development Struggles
@HonestHick ”USA video games are still the most played world wide games”
Exactly!
And it’s rare that Japan does to a game what gamers tried to do to Shadows. Seems they just skip a game they’re not interested in more so than make it their life’s work to destroy it.
Re: Japan's Game Industry on Impressive Rise as Western AAA Development Struggles
It ebbs and flows. A decade ago, it was the reverse. You people always try to jock Japan and put down everyone else. This is why most of the Sahdows outrage came from westerners on behalf of the Japanese, while most of the Japanese media seems to be impressed with the game. Hell, even something like this is being turned into a culture war. What was the reason a decade ago when Japan struggled and the west was won?
Also, to those who say the west alienates most of their audience before the game even releases. That’s on gamers, not game makers. You all put too much of your identity into video games. Funnily enough, those same people laugh at others for connecting stuff so closely to their own identity.
Re: Disrespectful Foreign Tourists Force Closure of Japanese Shrine Fixed by Ghost of Tsushima Fans
@Kienda great post! I literally (and I mean that literally) cringed when I read the blame being placed on an ethnicity.
Re: Multiple Big Publishers Willing to Delay Their Games to Avoid GTA 6
I can see it launching alongside the next Horizon game 😏
Re: Shadow of Mordor's Nemesis System Created to Combat the Used Games Market
Can’t believe I never played the sequel to one of my favorite games of last generation.
Re: Xbox Is Absolutely Dominating PS5's Pre-Order Charts
@Ken_Kaniff You're so right! And I have a bunch of friends who will certainly take this happening to heart. A good amount of my friend group favors XBOX to PS.
Re: PS5 Open World Crimson Desert Shows Off Its Insane Game Engine in New Videos
@DonJorginho I heard they changed the desert from Black to Crimson because they didn't want to be accused of going woke LMAO! ** I'll see myself out... **
Re: Xbox Is Absolutely Dominating PS5's Pre-Order Charts
@Chupa_loyzer maybe they have the money now and aren't sure they'll have it when the game releases? Maybe they have time to do it now so they just go ahead and do it since they're gonna do it later anyway? I mean, there could be any number of reasons.
Re: Xbox Is Absolutely Dominating PS5's Pre-Order Charts
It's no surprise when you realize the number of times you'd read/hear "Man, if (insert XBOX exclusive here) were on PS5 I'd scoop it up in a heartbeat." MS finally listened.
Re: PS5 Open World Crimson Desert Shows Off Its Insane Game Engine in New Videos
This looks so good! Hope it’s better than Black Desert.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@dark_knightmare2 you cotdamn right we did!
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Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@Ichiban it’s because if there’s any good news about this game, those who like it aren’t allowed to enjoy it. Every game has people who don’t like it. But this one is next level!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@dark_knightmare2 I’m a Horizon super fan as well. I’ll defend that series hard!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@Jimmer-jammer I’ve never seen a comments section with this many comments and have 1 guy account for half of them. Odd behavior!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@tselliot well, Ubisoft didn’t post the information so…
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@Ravix Delete that! It’s ruining the page!
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
@heavyartillery56 bro! This really shouldn’t anger you to this extent. Good lord! Like, as soon as you see anything that remotely resembles good news about this game it triggers you. Self reflect, my man!
Re: Poll: What Are Your Thoughts on Bloodborne, 10 Years Later?
I’ve always wanted to love Souls games but they’re too distressing for me. I play games to take in the story and destress. If the hard mode isn’t required for the platinum trophy I don’t play it. With Souls games, it’s always on hard mode lol. Bloodborne was super interesting to me but I lost interest quickly.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@Zuljaras I see. It’s crazy that he posts the full transcript but it looks like no one read past the headline and his subheading. If you read the full comment it’s obvious he’s not saying “Well, people need to get comfortable with not owning their games because that’s what’s gonna happen…” Because that’s how everyone who’s up in rms about that “quote” seems to take it.
He saying for the subscription model to work, gamers have to get comfortable with not owning their games. But, there’s a choice between subbing, buying digital, or buying physical. He’s not being dismissive like many proclaim.
Re: Bloodborne Fans Wait with Bated Breath as Iconic PS4 Exclusive Turns 10 Today
Dark Cloud 3 was supposed to release in 2010. I had high hopes. But I’ve moved on to other games. Bloodborne fans should try it. There’re so many other great games out there.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@Zuljaras that’s paraphrasing, not quoting. But it seems no matter his answer you’ve already had your mind made up. Its either Ubisoft is outright telling people they need to be comfortable with not owning their games. Or they mean exactly that, but didn’t say so directly.
It kinda proves how the angry YouTubers control the narrative. Like, I watched a YouTuber who’s okaying Shadows and he’s just playing the game. Not saying it’s amazing or the best game ever. Just playing. His entire comments section is people negatively commenting about Yasuke and hatred for Ubisoft. The you go to a YouTuber who’d post something like that misquote and those same people in the comments section are eating up the BS. It’s insane behavior!
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@B0udoir “Biggest game launch in the UK this year!”
C’mon man! They didn’t say it’s outselling MHW! They said it’s selling more in the UK. Why are you all selectively reading?!
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@Zuljaras I’ve posted the transcript of that interview. Why do you all keep putting quotes around “Get comfortable not owning your games” when it wasn’t said at all! That’s not how quotes work!
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@KawakiisaFraud I went ahead and pulled the transcript for you:
” One of the things we saw is that gamers are used to, a little bit like DVD, having and owning their games. That's the consumer shift that needs to happen. They got comfortable not owning their CD collection or DVD collection. That's a transformation that's been a bit slower to happen [in games]. As gamers grow comfortable in that aspect… you don't lose your progress. If you resume your game at another time, your progress file is still there. That's not been deleted. You don't lose what you've built in the game or your engagement with the game. So it's about feeling comfortable with not owning your game.“
“The point is not to force users to go down one route or another," he explains. "We offer purchase, we offer subscription, and it's the gamer's preference that is important here. We are seeing some people who buy choosing to subscribe now, but it all works."
And I think that’s the point — I am definitely on the side of owning the disc (talking about consoles of course because today even physical sales are not necessarily possible to run without a launcher, be it Steam, Ubisoft or any other platform where you redeem the code). Only exception I know that has written the philosophy of “owning your games” all over is GOG.
Your “quote” isn’t even said by him at all! And he even said “I am definitely on the side of owning the disc…” So again, please read past the headline and don’t follow YouTubers who obviously have an agenda.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@KawakiisaFraud that line you “quoted” is taken way out of context. Do yourself a favor and actually listen to the interview or read the transcripts. Stop listening to YouTubers who have an agenda. If you listen to the interview yourself you’ll find that line is dissected and taken out of a much broader dialogue.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@DennisReynolds what @boxmonkey is saying about the game reads like something being spread across the internet. The way he attacks the game, there’s no way he’s played that much of it to know all this. Just read some of that somewhere and decided to regurgitate it.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@rusty82 I believe @boxmonkey selectively didn’t read the “In the UK” part. It’s one of those things where you omit certain info to confirm your own bias.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@Ryo_Hazuki Outlaws is a super fun game. It’s my next game to play through after I finish Veilguard.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows (PS5) - Striking Open World RPG Is a Real Cut Above
@species hey. I’ll tell you why San Andreas didn’t fall into that category. It’s because it’s a game about the hood. And a Black guy has to be the lead in that game. See, when a Black guy gets out of place, that’s where the ruckus starts. Seriously! There’re people who complained about Captain America going woke because they made a Black guy be Captain America. Not knowing this is canonical. First thing they saw was Black.
As for the culture wars being new. That’s true. Like, Alien: Romulus got backlash because the lead is a female and her Android brother is Black. People complained about Alien being “woke” because it has a female lead! Alien! The film that’s had a female lead since the beginning.
I swear, in today’s climate, Ripley and Sarah Connor would never be revered as they are if they’d have been brought to the screen within the past 10 years. Neither of them are the desired female lead archetype.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows (PS5) - Striking Open World RPG Is a Real Cut Above
@DennisReynolds I keep saying it. Yasuke (Or any other Black character) is usually fine as a background character. But move them to the main character and there’s a problem.
I had an exchange with someone a little while ago regarding Green Lantern John Stewart (The Black Green Lantern). Everyone was saying how awesome he is and then some guy chimes in and says: “See. We don’t mind Black characters at all! They just need to be great characters and integral to the story!” My question is why? Why can’t Black characters just exist like everyone else? Why do they have to be special or “magical” (IYKYK) to be accepted? Why can’t they just be a part of the show without having to be some sort of plot device to advance the white main?
This is why Yasuke in Nioh was never an issue. Yasuke in Samurai Warriors was never an issue. He was in his place; the background. Assassin’s Creed Yasuke got frisky and dared to be in the spotlight. And that ruined the historical accuracy of this video game.
Re: Silent Hill F So Scary Australia Has Already Banned It, Sight Unseen
“That’s not a knife! Now, that’s a knife!”
Australia bans Dundee’s knife
Seriously?! You ban a video game because it’s too scary?! Scary isn’t gonna hurt anyone. Good lord!
Re: Journalist Apologises for Adding Fuel to the 'Final Fantasy 16 Flopped on PS5' Fire
@The_Pixel_King your selection tells me you are a gaming sommelier!
Re: Journalist Apologises for Adding Fuel to the 'Final Fantasy 16 Flopped on PS5' Fire
@naruball thanks! Hollywood and the gaming industry have bloated budgets and make it hard for anything to be financially successful.
For example, the new Captain America has grossed 400 million worldwide but they’re saying it’s a flop. Why? Because the budget was so big that it’s barely turning a profit. Rewind to 2011 when the original Captain America grossed 370 million worldwide and it’s considered a resounding success.
The budgets are too big when you include production costs and advertising. It’s one of the reasons so many have moved to digital. They’re trying to cut costs somewhere.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows (PS5) - Striking Open World RPG Is a Real Cut Above
Metacritic user reviews are up now. 5.7/10 so far. My favorite review is the 0/10 that says:
”nop def edef efef da dzqzd zqd zdze dzcefefgref zedzdaa ftttgtg zdfvftrgr dzd”
Spitting facts!
Re: Journalist Apologises for Adding Fuel to the 'Final Fantasy 16 Flopped on PS5' Fire
@Jey887 it’s absolutely the budgets for these games that make them hard to turn a profit. So many factors go into a game flopping today than they did 10 years ago (much of it is BS) so the devs need to take that into consideration. Remember when selling 1,000,000 would get the game a “Greatest Hits” label? Now, sell 5 million and you likely won’t get a sequel.
Re: PS Plus Members Have Early Access to Select PS5, PS4 Discounts in PS Store's Upcoming Spring Sale
Damn. Only interested in Hogwarts and already have it.
Re: Ex-Xbox Console Exclusive Indiana Jones Will Be Fully Revealed for PS5 Imminently
🤔 I was thinking this is already on PS5.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Now Surpasses 2 Million Players in Two Days
@jedinite whoever said it’s #1? The #1 game has nearly 2 million concurrent players. Assassins Creed wasn’t beating that even without those who intend for it to fail.
Re: Rumour: New God of War PS5 Game Returns to Greece This Year
Always excited for more Kratos! Even loved him in Hot Shots Golf: Out Of Bounds.
Re: PlayStation Marks 20 Years of God of War in Tribute Video
@nomither6 an “overwhelming majority”?! Where did you pull this “fact” from? I’m a God Of War super fan and I love all the games. But I prefer older gameplay. Many feel the opposite. But there’s no evidence that an overwhelming majority feel heavily about the games one way or another.
Re: PlayStation Marks 20 Years of God of War in Tribute Video
Amazing video! One of my all time favorites series! I do miss the old gameplay though.